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PaulofTarsus

"Bad News Paul"
Part One

In contrast to the gospels, which
feature the good news of Jesus
for all kinds of needy people,
Paul's epistles contain
a lot of bad news for the weak,
i.e. Jews, slaves, women, the poor and
gays; but good news for some in power.

See   Part Two for the attacks of
"St. Paul" on Jews, slaves, women, the poor and gays;
and
Part Three : Conservative faith
is actually "Paulianity",  not Christianity.

Wasn't Paul of Tarsus
Jesus Christ's top salesman?

Paul of Tarsus was so ambitious and so energetic that, had he been a business man, he could have been the Donald Trump of his day.  If Jesus had wanted to include the great enterprising Paul among the twelve men who would carry forth his work after his passing, there was nothing preventing him from doing so. But he didn't. And what happened as soon as Jesus left the scene?  If we are to believe Paul, Jesus appears to have discovered this huge mistake of his and made up for it by first converting Paul, and then selecting him after all! And not just to be one of the twelve, but to be the one apostle who would write more, travel more, and work harder than all twelve of the original apostles put together.  Although it's been assumed for centuries that the Matthew and John who wrote Gospels were the original apostles of those names, the Gospels don't make such claims. And considering the facts that these were very common Jewish names, and that these Gospels were writen in a language that was a "Greek" to them as it probably is to you, it is very unlikely that the apostles of those names wrote the gospels attributed to them. 
        Yet, we know that Paul's epistles were making the rounds of the churches between the years 51-64 CE, dozens of years before any of the four gospels appeared.  For someone who was supposed to be one of Jesus of Nazareth's top representatives, it's remarkable that he never referred to Jesus being born of a virgin birth or to Jesus performing all kinds of miracles. And how could he represent Jesus without ever citing any of he many actual words of Jesus that the Gospel writers would eventually publish? While the twelve apostles maintained the one original Christian community in Jerusalem, Paul was busy establishing churches throughout the Roman empire, all of which went on long after the Roman army destroyed the Jewish capital just 36 years after Jesus left the scene and dispersed the original community of Jewish followers that Jesus had established in Jerusalem.  Athough Paul only claimed for himself the title of "Apostle to the Gentiles", once the original community of Christ's followers - who were all Jews - was dispersed, who knows what became of the eleven apostles whom Jesus had left in charge of his work? There is more than enough evidence to support the view that the "Christianity" many "believers" have inherited over the centuries has been based on the legacy, not so much of Jesus of Nazareth, but of Paul of Tarsus.

Why don't people who follow the teaching and example of PAUL, rather than CHRIST, call themselves "Disciples of Paul" or "Paulians", rather than "Christians" ?

Although they may not recognize it, Conservatives are much more enthused about the teaching of Paul than they are of Jesus' teaching.  Just listen to them, or look at what they write.  Most of the time, even when they mention Jesus' name, it isn't to promote his teaching about himself, but to promote Paul's teaching about Christ.  Here is a perfect example of how "Christian Conservatives" view their identity as "Christians", not by what Jesus taught, but by what Paul taught.
        Unlike Jesus of Nazareth, who was a Liberal who built up the weak and the poor, while tearing down the mighty, Paul of Tarsus was a Conservative who often down the weak: women, slaves, Jews, gays and the poor, while empowering those in power, as I will spell out in Paul's own words below.  Paul has proven himself the dream theologian of Conservatives, who for centuries has provided any number of bible passages to help white, European, male, prosperous, heterosexual "Christians" to help them keep the rest of mankind under their feet.


Here's my color code:
  • Red for Jesus' words
  • Green for Paul's words
  • Purple for other biblical texts
To any Conservative Christians who may be upset with what I say on this page, may I remind you of Paul's words to the Galatians (4–16) : "Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth?" ( I don't disagree with everything that Paul taught, but only with that which is contrary or inferior to what Jesus taught.)

As we show in great depth at our LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/Liberals.html site, the real essence of Conservatism, is the persuasion that some people are entitled to have advantages or privileges giving them social standing above people of color, or Jews, or women, or homosexuals, or the poor, and they can and should do whatever it takes to protect, i.e. "conserve" and promote those advantages against the efforts of those who would "liberate" themselves (or others) from their disadvantages.
        So-called "Conservative Christians" have never been able to find much in Jesus' teaching to support their conservatism. But they hit the biblical jackpot in support of their views in the teaching of Paul of Tarsus.

By giving his blessing to slavery, Paul has
helped Conservative white European Americans
to keep "inferior colored races " subjected :

ClergyinSupportofSlavery "God's Word" was used to
enslave millions in America's "Bible belt" :

"Let the gentleman go to revelation to learn the decree of God, let him go to the Bible. I said that slavery was sanctioned in the Bible, authorized, regulated, and recognized from Genesis to (the book of) Revelation. Slavery existed then in the earliest ages and among the chosen people of God; and in revelation we are told that it shall exist till the end of time shall come. You find it in the Old and New Testaments, in the prophecies, psalms, and (especially) the epistles of Paul; you find it recognized and sanctioned everywhere."


Jefferson Davis,
President of the Confederate States of America

  • [ Titus 2:9–10 ]

    "Tell slaves to be submissive to their masters and to give satisfaction in every respect; they are not to talk back, not to pilfer, but to show complete and perfect fidelity, so that in everything they may be an ornament to the doctrine of God our Savior."

  • [ Ephesians 6: 5–8 ]
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    "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, in singleness of heart, as you obey Christ; not only while being watched, and in order to please them, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart.  Render service with enthusiasm, as to the Lord and not to men and women, knowing that whatever good we do, we will receive the same again from the Lord, whether we are slaves or free."

  • [ I Cor. 7: 21–24 ]

    "Were you a slave when called?  Do not be concerned about it.  Even if you can gain your freedom, make use of your present condition now more than ever.  For whoever was called in the Lord as a slave is a freed person belonging to the Lord, just as whoever was free when called is a slave of Christ.  You were bought with a price; do not become slaves of human masters.  In whatever condition you were called, brothers and sisters, there remain with God."

  • [ 1 Tim. 6:1–5 ]

    Paul4Slavery.jpg"Let all who are under the yoke of slavery regard their masters as worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and the teaching may not be blasphemed.  Those who have believing masters must not be disrespectful to them on the ground that they are members of the church; rather they must serve them all the more, since those who benefit by their service are believers and beloved.  Teach and urge these duties.
            Whoever teaches otherwise and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that is in accordance with godliness, is conceited, understanding nothing, and has a morbid craving for controversy and for disputes about words.  From these come envy, dissension, slander, base suspicions, and wrangling among those who are depraved in mind and bereft of the truth."

  •         Here are some of the other favorite sources of support for slavery that Conservatives have found in the older parts of "God's Word" :
           Leviticus 25:44–46:

    "As for the male and female slaves whom you may have, it is from the nations around you that you may acquire male and female slaves. You may also acquire them from among the aliens residing with you, and from their families that are with you, who have been born in your land; and they may be your property. You may keep them as a possession for your children after you, for them to inherit as property."

            and Exodus 21:20, which adds:
            "When a slaveowner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies immediately, the owner shall be punished.  But if the slave survives a day or two, there is no punishment; for the slave is the owner's property."

    Some in America's 'Bible Belt"
    are still using the bible to defend slavery :

    So-called "Christian Conservatives" who desperately need some of the Bible's least important verses to hound homosexuals these days, are the worthy descendants of their predecessors, who used the Bible in the very same way to promote and defend slavery for hundreds of years.  As Dr. Terrry Matthews explains so well in http://WhatWouldJesusThink.info/slavery&southernchurches.html, "The South felt it necessary to defend the Bible as inerrant truth, with no mixture of error because Southerners came to believe that anything that threatened to undermine the authority of scripture also undermined one of their best defenses of slavery.

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    One of the Southern "theologians", Robert Lewis Dabney, clearly described the deliberate nature of this strategy when he wrote in 1851: "Here is our policy then . . .  to push the Bible argument continually, to drive Abolitionism to the wall, to compel it to assume an anti-Christian position."  Like other Southerners, he felt that if the abolitionists could be made out to be attacking God's Word as well as slavery, their influence among the public could be limited.  Another leading Southerner, James Henley Thornwell, went so far as to say that calling Slavery sinful was to reject the Bible in favor of a rationalistic mode of thought.  And some Southern religious leaders who went so far as to attack the Declaration of Independence and the Virginia Bill of Rights, as having sprung from the same infidel philosophy which bred abolitionism.
            While conservative Southern Christians used the worst parts of the bible to justify human slavery, liberal Northern Christians used the best parts of the bible to fight for the abolition of slavery.  They focused on the spirit and teachings of Jesus, and believed that the Golden Rule had superseded the ethic of the Old Testament.  They saw scripture as a progressive revelation, and therefore gave greater weight to the New Testament teaching concerning the law of love.
            On the other hand was the South, with its claim that slavery was divinely ordained.  Here are some examples of the use that Southern clergy made of scriptural texts to prove their point, and to even insist that those who differed from them were denying the truthfulness of "God's Word" :
            The Alabama Conference of the Methodist Church proclaimed in January, 1861: "African slavery is a wise, humane and righteous institution approved by God. "
            The General Assembly of the Southern Presbyterian Church boasted in 1864: "We have no hesitation in affirming that it is the peculiar mission of the southern church to conserve the institution of slavery and to make it a blessing to both master and slave."  In an 1862 sermon at Savannah, GA, Episcopalian Bishop Elliott actually condemned opposition to slavery as "presumptuous interference with the will and ways of God."
            On the other side, the abolitionist leader, William Lloyd Garrison said at the time, "It [slavery] has exercised absolute mastery over (a large part of) the American Church. With the Bible in their hands, her priesthood have attempted to prove that slavery came down from God out of heaven. They have become slaveholders and dealers in human flesh."
            And the one time slave, Frederick Douglass, mourned "We have men sold to build churches, women sold to support the gospel, and babies sold to purchase Bibles for the poor heathen, all for the glory of God and the good of souls. The slave auctioneer’s bell and the church-going bell chime in with each other, and the bitter cries of the heart-broken slave are drowned in the religious shouts of his pious master. Revivals of religion and revivals in the slave trade go hand in hand.”

    The "times were different then" defense of Paul's teaching :

    There is no merit to the Christian-conservative argument that most people in Paul's time viewed the enslavement of other human beings as normal.
            Historians are now revealing that at the very time that Paul was publishing his epistles, the very pious Essenes, who were also known as the "Nazarenes" (perhaps because of a connection with Jesus of Nazareth), were dead-set against the practice of slavery. We weren't aware of these people until the discovery of many writings of theirs that became famous as "the Dead Sea Scrolls" in the late 20th century.
            Philo of Alexandria, a contemporary of the Essenes, wrote about them :  "Least of all were any slaves to be found among them, for they saw in slavery a violation of the law of nature which made all people free."


    George Lincoln Rockwell (March 9, 1918 – August 25, 1967) was the very racist founder of the American Nazi Party and a major figure in the National Socialist movement in post-war America and his beliefs and writings are still influential among White Nationalists and National Socialists today. In the wikipedia entry on him this interesting statement appears in the middle of the section on his ideological development : "In his later years, he would equate himself with Saint Paul and promoted Christian Identity, a racist sect, hoping to obtain conservative Christian support."

    Conservatives have found in Paul
    some of their best material for
    putting down and oppressing Women:

    • [Ephesians 5:22–24 ]PaulSuppressionWomen

      "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. "[2]

    • [ I Cor.14: 34–35 ]

      "Women should be silent in the churches.  For they are not permitted to speak, but should be subordinate, as the law also says.  If there is anything they desire to know, let them ask their husbands at home.  For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church."[1]

    • [ 1 Tim. 2: 9–15 ]

      "Women should dress themselves modestly and decently in suitable clothing, not with their hair braided, or with gold, pearls, or expensive clothes, but with good works, as is proper for women who profess reverence for God.  Let a woman learn in silence with full submission.  I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she is to keep silent.  For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.  Yet she will be saved through childbearing, provided they continue in faith and love and holiness, with modesty."

    • [ Titus 2: 3–5 ]

      "Likewise, tell the older women to be reverent in behavior, not to be slanderers or slaves to drink; they are to teach what is good, so that they may encourage the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, to be self–controlled, chaste, good managers of the household, kind, being submissive to their husbands, so that the word of God may not be discredited."

    • [ I Corinthians 11:14–16 ]

      "For a man ought not to have his head veiled, since he is the image and reflection of God; but woman is the reflection of man.  Indeed, man was not made from woman, but woman from man.  Neither was man created for the sake of woman, but woman for the sake of man.  For this reason a woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels.  .  .  Judge for yourselves: is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head unveiled?.  Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair, it is degrading to him, but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory?  For her hair is given to her for a covering.  But if anyone is disposed to be contentious – we have no such custom, nor do the churches of God."

    • In [ I Corinthians Ch. 7:1–16 ] Paul had a lot to say about celibacy, marriage, divorce and widowhood, most of tainted by his dim view of women:

      "1. Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: “It is well for a man not to touch a woman.” 2 But because of cases of sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. 3 The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does; likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. 5 Do not deprive one another except perhaps by agreement for a set time, to devote yourselves to prayer, and then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6 This I say by way of concession, not of command. 7 I wish that all were as I myself am. But each has a particular gift from God, one having one kind and another a different kind. 8 To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is well for them to remain unmarried as I am. 9 But if they are not practicing self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to be aflame with passion. 10 To the married I give this command — not I but the Lord — that the wife should not separate from her husband 11 (but if she does separate, let her remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband), and that the husband should not divorce his wife. 12 To the rest I say — I and not the Lord — that if any believer has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he should not divorce her. 13 And if any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is made holy through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is made holy through her husband. Otherwise, your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy. 15 But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so; in such a case the brother or sister is not bound. It is to peace that God has called you. 16 Wife, for all you know, you might save your husband. Husband, for all you know, you might save your wife. (Since you didn't follow his advice to avoid marriage, now you deserve to suffer. )

    • [ I Timothy 5: 3–12 ]

      "Honor widows who are really widows. If a widow has children or grandchildren, they (these children) should first learn their religious duty to their own family and make some repayment to their parents; for this is pleasing in God's sight. The real widow, left alone, has set her hope on God and continues in supplications and prayers night and day; but the widow who lives for pleasure is dead even while she lives. Give these commands as well, so that they may be above reproach. And whoever does not provide for relatives, and especially for family members, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
             `Let a widow be put on the list if she is not less than sixty years old and has been married only once; she must be well attested for her good works, as one who has brought up children, shown hospitality, washed the saints' feet, helped the afflicted, and devoted herself to doing good in every way. But refuse to put younger widows on the list; for when their sensual desires alienate them from Christ, they want to marry, and so they incur condemnation for having violated their first pledge."[3]

    • Notes on the passages above :

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    • [1]When women were struggling for some degree of equality in America, there were organizations like the "National Association Opposed to Woman Suffrage" who used Paul to try to keep women in their place.
    • [2]There are still bible-believers, such as "https://biblicalgenderroles.com/2017/07/19/does-the-bible-teach-that-women-are-second-class-citizens/" who use Paul to keep women in subjection to men. I found the image to the right on their website, with this commentary super-imposed on it: "America grants equal rights to women. But does the Bible?"
    • [3]   Here's how some leading spokesmen for "Compassionate Conservatism" capitalize on this Pauline text:

      "I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period."
      – Pat Robertson again, The 700 Club, 01-08-92   and

        "This passage is especially striking because Paul is talking about the class of suffering people who are nearest and dearest to God – and look at the conditions he requires before recommending assistance to widows within the church: first, family responsibility; second, help only to over–60s; third, help only to those well–known for good deeds. From all this we learn much about the particular problem of helping widows in the church, but we should also draw a logical conclusion: How much more so should we be careful before putting others on the list?
             And how careful should we be in making up a list of those to be aided by government? Other parts of the New Testament similarly show that God is not obligated to help even widows, when ungodly belief and behavior has come to dominate a culture." (p. 265, "The Tragedy of American Compassion (1992)", by Marvin Olasky)

    • [4]   Fr. Harry Coverston, an Episcopal priest friend of mine, relates this interesting experience :

      "My favorite memory of this verse occurred my first Sunday in Berkeley. I attended the local Episcopal parish next to the campus. A woman read both the Hebrew Scripture and Epistle lessons. The first lesson ended with the customary, 'The word of the Lord' to which Episcopalians heartily respond 'Thanks be to God!'
              The Epistle contained the verses of I Cor.14: 34–35 (see above). One could observe the woman lector become increasingly incensed as she read the passage. At the end of the passage, there was a long pause after which the woman shook her head and gave the alternative acclamation, 'Here ends the lesson,' an acclamation to which there is no liturgical response. It was quite comical. I stifled a giggle but what happened next completely surprised me. The parish burst out in applause. In a subtle way, the woman lector had made a theological commentary on the lessons and the crowd roared its approval. Now, one doesn't see that in your average Sunday liturgy."

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      Saul of Tarsus is probably this fellow preacher's favorite "Christian".

      "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do,
      because I notice it always coincides with their own desires."
      Susan B. Anthony

    "Christians" who have a dim view of sexuality, women and marriage owe that view to Paul of Tarsus, rather than to Jesus of Nazareth, for ...

    "Paul had mounted a vigorous defense of celibacy or remaining unmarried. Although he does not require it of his followers, he asserts that he lives the single non–sexual life and he strongly recommends it as the most practical as well as the most spiritually devoted lifestyle. He writes, in this regard, 'I wish that all were as I myself am,' [ I Corinthians 7:7–8 ]. . . one can conclude that if Paul had known Jesus to have been single or unmarried, living a celibate life, he would have mentioned it prominently. In fact it would have been one of his main points. It would have been irresistible. He mounts every possible defense of celibacy, but in the end is only able to appeal to his own example. Imagine how much more rigorously he could have argued had he been able to say, "follow me here, as I follow Christ." In this particular case I think his silence is "deafening." As with Cephas (Peter), the other apostles, and the brothers of the Lord, he knows that having a wife as a companion is the norm and pattern in the group. Paul must have known that Jesus was married."
    [ http://jesusdynasty.com/blog/2007/05/01/was-jesus-married/ - no longer online - ]

    [3]There was an early Christian book called "The Acts of Paul and Thecla" in which Paul promoted total chastity as the only path to Heaven!


    On the September 12, 2006 edition of Talk Radio Network's The Savage Nation, Michael Savage had this to say about women:
            " Weren't we told before Barbara Boxer became a U.S. senator, before Dianne Feinstein became a U.S. senator, before Hillary Clinton became a U.S. senator, that when women became senators, we'd have a kinder, gentler Senate, a more compassionate Senate? Well, I think the results are quite clear. The Senate is not kinder and gentler or more compassionate. In fact, it's more vicious and more histrionic than ever, specifically because women have been injected into the Senate."


    While Rev. Lee Grady published a book called "Ten-Lies-Church-Tells-Women", I don't know if he dealt with the contrast between Paul & Jesus, honestly. I hope that someone who has read the book will inform me. [ See http://www.amazon.com/Ten-Lies-Church-Tells-Women/product-reviews/1591859948/ref=dp_db_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1 ]
            While Paul reflected the male chauvinism of his world, see the refreshingly liberal view of women that Jesus expressed in his words and his deeds.  Sadly, in too many Christian homes and communities, Paul's view has prevailed over Jesus' view!

Jehovah Witness leadership have found in Paul
the perfect protection for the clergy among them
who molest women and/or children :

1 Timothy 5:19-20 (NASB)

" Do not receive an accusation against an elder except on the basis of two or three witnesses. Those who continue in sin, rebuke in the presence of all, so that the rest also will be fearful of sinning."

Unless the victims of these crimes had the foresight to have several witnesses on hand to observe the perpetration of the crimes against them, Jehovah's Witness say that God's Word proclaims that they are out of luck!!! See the very informative video :

See   Part Two for the attacks of
"St. Paul" on gays, Jews, and the poor , and
Part Three : Conservative faith not Christianity, but "Paulianity"
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